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Catholic Church selling assets to pay Mount Cashel survivors, but lawyer says it won't be enough

Lawyer Geoff Budden says he's pleased to know the Catholic Church is finally moving ahead with selling some of its properties to raise money to compensate men who were sexually abused at the former Mount Cashel Orphanage.

'It's going to take quite a large pool of money,' says Geoff Budden

The Catholic Church is moving ahead with selling some of its assets to pay survivors of sexual abuse from the former Mount Cashel Orphanage. It includes the Mount St. Francis property on Merrymeeting Road in St. John's. (Mark Quinn/CBC)

The Archdiocese of St. John's is preparing to sell off its properties to compensate men who were sexually abused at the former Mount Cashel Orphanage in the 1940s, '50s and '60s, but a lawyer representing the survivors says that revenue won't be sufficient to cover damages.

Lawyer Geoff Budden says he's pleased to know the Catholic Church is moving ahead on its obligation by selling some well-known properties, including the Archbishop's residence in Outer Cove, the Mount St. Francis property on Merrymeeting Road and two parcels of vacant land.

The archdiocese announced its intention to sell those assets over the weekend.

Budden, whose firm represents over 60 survivors of Mount Cashel, told CBC News that listing the properties is an important first step, but added that sales income can't cover all the known victims.

"You have to remember that while the judgment was for four men — and the total judgment was for approximately $2.7 million — there are in fact well over 60 men. Our firm has 60 survivors or more, and other firms have some also," Budden said Monday.  

"So it's going to take quite a large pool of money — tens of millions of dollars to satisfy all those claims."

Budden said he has issues with how slowly the church moved up until the point of the Supreme Court of Canada's final say. He said, in fairness, since the final ruling the Catholic Church has been public about selling its assets. 

The Archbishop's residence in Outer Cove is one of the first properties the Catholic Church is putting on the market to pay survivors of sexual abuse from the former Mount Cashel Orphanage. (Mark Quinn/CBC)

The Archdiocese of St. John's was found liable after the Supreme Court of Canada declined to hear one last appeal in January. The decision brought to an end a painful case for survivors that had been slowly working its way through the court system over the last 21 years.

Some of the survivors are now in their 80s. Most are in their 70s, Budden said. 

"They were abused over 60 years ago in some cases, or more. Some were abused before Confederation. So yes, it's been a long time, yes they are impatient to receive the compensation that the law says they're entitled to. However, they also realize that it is a process that has to be done right," he said. 

"It's also important to remember that things have to be done professionally. You can't just market properties without some sort of strategy, professional advice, all those things. So it can only move so fast."

Church-owned schools

The total value of the church's assets is still unknown. It's also not yet clear how much the church will be expected to pay in damages.

Budden said further complications may arise if the church is expected to sell some of the dozens of schools it still owns in the province, with some still in use by school districts.

After the denominational school system ended in N.L. in 1997, school districts were given buildings owned by the Catholic Church to use rent-free until they were no longer needed.

Lawyer Geoff Budden, whose firm represents over 60 survivors of abuse from the former Mount Cashel Orphanage, says the first four properties listed for sale by the Catholic Church for payment won't raise enough money. (Mark Quinn/CBC)

Budden said that arrangement may have to change.

"The goal is not to turn children out of the schools or anything foolish like that," he said. 

"The goal is to see the government ultimately take responsibility, take over the schools in every sense, pay off the true value of the schools to the archdiocese, continue to use them as schools if they are needed but allow compensation to be paid out of the proceeds of that compensation."

For the Catholic Church itself, Archbishop Peter Hundt isn't taking interviews yet, but in his latest written update to parishioners on the church's ongoing reorganization, he wrote there will be more properties for sale as the archdiocese undergoes a "major restructuring" that will impact its services and staff.

"These properties are the first of many that will be listed for sale in the upcoming weeks and months. As much as is possible, we will try to keep you informed about this property appraisal and sale process," Hundt wrote. 

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With files from Mark Quinn