New Brunswick

Bob Rae says minority rule is all about numbers — but 3rd parties shouldn't overreach

Canadian politician Bob Rae came to Fredericton to discuss human rights in the age of populism, a topic that resonates in the aftermath of New Brunswick's election.

Former politician has some experience with supporting and ending minority governments

Bob Rae was in Fredericton this week to deliver a lecture on human rights and populism. (CBC News)

New Brunswick is facing its first minority government in almost 100 years, coupled with a ripple of populism that will bring two small parties to greater prominence in the legislature.

This is unknown territory for voters and politicians alike. 

Enter Bob Rae, who knows a thing or two about starting, and finishing, minority governments.

In 1979, it was Rae's motion as an NDP member of Parliament that precipitated the end of Joe Clark's minority government. 

As leader of Ontario's NDP during the minority election of 1985, Rae signed an accord with the second-place David Peterson Liberals that toppled Frank Miller's Progressive Conservatives, ending a 42-year-old Tory dynasty and putting the Liberals in power.

In minority governments you think you've got a lot of leverage if you're the balance of power, as they say, but you've got to always be careful not to overplay your hand.- Bob Rae, former federal cabinet minister

Then, as a federal Liberal MP and interim party leader, Rae had a front-row seat to Stephen Harper's two consecutive minority governments. The lesson from all those political nail-biters?

"It's all about the numbers," the now-retired politician said during a brief stop in Fredericton to deliver a university lecture.

"It's not about the theories about what you can do, but can you actually do it?"

Bob Rae on the future of a minority government in New Brunswick

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Former NDP premier and Liberal leader Bob Rae said while minority coalition governments can work well when there is a clear shared agenda, the numbers in New Brunswick election are so close it's hard to tell if stability can be achieved.

Despite Blaine Higgs's claim that he should have the first chance to form government because he won the most seats, Rae said Premier Brian Gallant has every right to try to govern if he can.

"The question is will he be able to pull it off," Rae said.

"Looking at these numbers, it's hard for me to see how that lasts for four years, unless something dramatic happens."

In New Brunswick, the past few days have been all about the political drama as parties scramble to keep their footing following an election with no clear victor.

On Monday, the PCs won 22 seats, the Liberals 21, and the Green and People's Alliance parties each won three. 

New Brunswick Premier Bian Gallant intends to continue governing and is going after Green Party support. (James West/THE CANADIAN PRESS)

Gallant has made clear he intends to continue governing, either on his own or in co-operation with a third party, and he hopes to work something out with the Greens.

"Our caucus believes that there are a lot of commonalities that we could work on to ensure there's a progressive government," Gallant said.

Both the Greens and the People's Alliance could wield significant power over the future of New Brunswick's government. Neither the Liberals nor the PCs can govern without the support of one or both of the third parties.

How those parties exercise that power also has significant implications for their future political success. Rae warned third parties that forming a coalition with larger partners can backfire if they try to overreach.

"In minority governments you think you've got a lot of leverage if you're the balance of power, as they say, but you've got to always be careful not to overplay your hand," he said.

"The reality is that the Liberal Party got 37 per cent and the Conservative Party got 32 per cent, and that's a lot more than the other parties got."

Rae was in Fredericton to give the annual Bernie Vigod lecture on human rights at St. Thomas University. His subject, human rights in the age of populism, also had resonance in New Brunswick's election.

People's Alliance Party Leader Kris Austin promised during his 'common sense' campaign that he would end language duality. (CBC)

Populism, according to Oxford, is a political movement that "strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups."

Both the People's Alliance and the Green Party share some populist roots, even if they do occupy opposite ends of the political spectrum.

We have a premier in Ontario who said he won a massive majority. Well he won 40 per cent of the vote. Mr. Trump didn't have a majority, he lost the popular vote.- Bob Rae

Rae cautions that populism may have legitimate roots, but that it is vulnerable to chauvinism and manipulation by demagogues, particularly the Donald Trump brand of "me first" politics that most people associate with populism today.

Kris Austin's "common sense" approach appeals to the concerns of many ordinary New Brunswickers, but his linguistic policy and opposition to duality have francophones worried about their constitutional language rights. 

Green Party Leader David Coon has made it clear his party is opposed to the Alliance's language policies. At the same time, Coon has said his economic policy would shift investment inward to focus on businesses and co-operatives at the community level, instead of courting larger corporations. 

He said the Green Party would support "co-operatives at the community level that are community-based, locally owned and particularly that are focused on meeting the needs of New Brunswickers to help reduce our imports, and that will keep more money in our economy, creating more jobs here and more opportunity here."

Coon's vision of a self-sufficient New Brunswick demonstrates populist tendencies when it comes to the economy, and his party's grassroots environmental movement does set itself against the political status quo of Liberals and PCs — take the party's popular bumper sticker slogan "David Coon works for me," for example.

The Green Party, which, like the People's Alliance, won three seats, could also play an important role in what happens next with the New Brunswick government. (Sarah Morin/CBC)

"Populism, if you're not careful, can tip over the edge and say this is about the majority getting whatever the hell they want," Rae said. "And then you say, 'Wait a minute, who decides what the majority want?' We have a premier in Ontario who said he won a massive majority. Well he won 40 per cent of the vote. Mr. Trump didn't have a majority, he lost the popular vote."

Rae said human rights are about protecting minorities, which creates a conflict with populism.

"That's not always popular for a court to say, 'We're going to protect that minority and we're going to do what needs to be done to protect it.' 

"In the case of New Brunswick, it's the language issue, it's a classic. We have laws that protect the linguistic minority, and if you just throw that overboard you're into pretty dangerous territory."

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Angela Bosse is a reporter with CBC New Brunswick. Story tip? angela.bosse@cbc.ca

With files from Harry Forestell