New Brunswick

Higgs's remarks on LGBTQ policy called 'deplorable' by education council members

Members of the Anglophone East district education council waded into a debate over New Brunswick’s policy on LGBTQ students in schools, with one member calling Premier Blaine Higgs's comments on the issue "deplorable."

Council members also criticize government for bill that limits their power

A man in a suit and glasses speaking into a microphone.
New Brunswick Premier Blaine Higgs spoke to reporters about the province's review of education policy 713 on Tuesday. (Ed Hunter/CBC)

Members of the Anglophone East district education council have waded into a debate over New Brunswick's policy on LGBTQ students in schools, with one member calling Premier Blaine Higgs's comments on the issue "deplorable."

"I know it's recent news, it just came out, but the premier's comments regarding Policy 713 tonight are absolutely deplorable," Dominic Vautour said during the council's meeting Tuesday evening in Moncton. 

It was one of a series of comments by Anglophone East council members, who oversee a district in the southeast region of the province with more than 18,000 students, that criticized the government and its approach to education.

Vautour's comments came as the council voted to send a letter to Education Minister Bill Hogan urging preservation of the policy in place since 2020.

Earlier in the day, New Brunswick's child and youth advocate released a report critical of the province's review of the policy. 

Kelly Lamrock said the review appeared to be the result of three emails over 30 months, a significantly smaller number than the "hundreds" of complaints Hogan and Higgs have claimed the government has received.

WATCH | RAW: See the full scrum on Policy 713: 

Policy 713: Here is what Premier Blaine Higgs told reporters

2 years ago
Duration 18:36
Premier Blaine Higgs spoke to reporters for more than 18 minutes about Policy 713, which ensures safe spaces in schools for LGBTQ youth. Here it is in its entirety.

Higgs spoke to reporters for nearly 20 minutes at the legislature Tuesday to defend the review.

He said parents should be informed by schools if children under the age of 16 want to adopt a different name and pronoun at school.

The premier also said he doesn't think elementary and kindergarten children should attend drag queen storytime events, asking if schools are to promote something instead of teaching. 

'You can count us as thousands'

Vautour said in an interview after the meeting that there are children who don't feel safe expressing their identity to their parents. 

"For us to put an age limit where the parent is contacted if a child decides to speak to a guidance counsellor to join an alliance group, or whatever it may be that would be outing that child to the parents, which may be hostile," Vautour said.

A man in a polo shirt smiling.
Dominic Vautour, a member of the Anglophone East district education council, called the premier's comments on Policy 713 deplorable. (Anglophone East District Education Council)

"We've seen it time and time again in other jurisdictions and other countries, how harmful that can be to the children."

The Premier's Office did not respond to a request for comment Tuesday evening. 

Council members voiced a series of remarks critical of Hogan's claim about the number of complaints that led to the review launched in April.

"Minister Hogan, there are 11 of us," Ian Hebblethwaite, another council member, said of the group's support for keeping Policy 713. "You can count us as thousands."

"Can we talk about numeracy now?" member Kristin Cavoukian said followed by laughs in the room. 

WATCH | Students rallied in favour of Policy 713 during a demonstration on Monday:  

High school students walk out in support of N.B. gender-identity policy

2 years ago
Duration 1:56
The provincial government has confirmed it will be reviewing Policy 713 because of hundreds of complaints they say were received from parents and teachers.

"Obviously, numeracy has failed some people in this province," Vautour said, going on to speak about the premier. 

Superintendent Randy MacLean told the council the district would continue to strive to create safe spaces for students. 

Legal challenge of council powers planned

It was the second topic in which council members were highly critical of the province's approach. Earlier, they voted to hire legal representation to challenge Bill 46. 

The bill introduced last week would eliminate decision-making authority at four anglophone school districts, but preserve it with francophone districts. 

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Kristin Cavoukian, an Anglophone East district education council member, was among those critical of the province reviewing Policy 713 and proposed changes to council powers. (Maeve McFadden/CBC)

"This is important," Hebblethwaite said ahead of the unanimous vote. "It's about local representation. The government is proposing to remove that."

Multiple council members said the province appeared to want to centralize power in Fredericton after a fight over changes to French immersion in the anglophone sector. 

They suggested reducing the power of councils to make decisions could see controversial changes made without local input.

"We become a consultative body that can be ignored," Cavoukian said.

The vote was a concrete step toward a formal legal challenge the four anglophone districts threatened to launch in a news release last week.

It wasn't clear whether the other councils would also vote to hire a lawyer.

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Shane Magee

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Shane Magee is a Moncton-based reporter for CBC.

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