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Did Mark Carney's campaign use AI to boost crowd sizes? We investigated

Following an event for Liberal leadership candidate Mark Carney last week, some social media users claimed that at least some of the supporters pictured in still photos shared by the campaign were AI-generated. The CBC’s visual investigations team has examined the image. Here's what they found.

Growing sophistication of AI causing people to be increasingly skeptical of online images, video, expert says

A man speaks to a room of people.
This photo was taken at a Mark Carney leadership campaign event on Feb. 12 in North Vancouver. Some social media users have claimed it was AI-generated. (Submitted by the Mark Carney campaign)

In online posts that were collectively viewed hundreds of thousands of times, some social media users have claimed that a photo of a Mark Carney campaign event was AI-generated.

Several social media users claim the image, which shows an event held last week at the Pinnacle Hotel at the Pier in North Vancouver, was manipulated in order to create the impression that Carney was speaking in front of a larger crowd. Some users also relied on online AI detector tools that suggested the photo was created using artificial intelligence.

This isn't the only claim that politicians have manipulated images — Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has been the subject of similar false claims in the past — and experts say the growing sophistication of AI is causing people to be increasingly skeptical of online images and video.

The CBC's visual investigations team obtained the original Carney event image and found no evidence the shots were AI-generated or digitally altered beyond traditional lighting and colour correction techniques. A CBC News cameraperson was also present at the event. Accessing CBC's raw footage, which shows the entire rally, allows for a visual comparison with the campaign photo. 

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Screenshots from the social media platform X show a variety of claims that the photo taken at a recent rally for Carney has AI elements. CBC's visual investigations team has determined that the photo is not AI-generated. (Composite of X screenshots)

Carney's campaign says the image was not created with AI.

"It is an authentic image from Mr. Carney's North Vancouver event, and we can confirm its accuracy," the campaign said in a statement.

Carney's campaign provided CBC News with the original photo, which contains metadata — behind-the-scenes information detailing everything from the type of camera used to the exact time the image was taken. In the CBC's footage of the event, the photographer is visible in the background at the precise time, and at an angle that fits with the image.

The controversy illustrates how recent advances in generative AI are causing people to increasingly default to doubting anything they see online, said Darren Linvill, co-director of the Media Forensics Hub at Clemson University in South Carolina.

"I think one of the biggest dangers here is not necessarily that the world is going to be full of fake things," he said, "but the simple fact that we won't believe the real things when they're right in front of us."

The Carney image is just the latest instance of claims that politicians have manipulated images. Late last year, several users claimed — in posts viewed tens of thousands of times — that Pierre Poilievre had photoshopped himself into an image at the Toronto Chinatown Festival.

But livestreamed footage shows the exact moment the photo was taken, and the perspective matches with the view at the location of the festival stage in Toronto.

WATCH | CBC footage of the Mark Carney campaign event:

CBC footage of Mark Carney event in North Vancouver

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CBC News captured footage of Mark Carney speaking at a campaign event in North Vancouver on Feb. 12. Some social media users later claimed that photos of the event shared by the Carney campaign were AI-generated. Comparing the campaign photos to CBC footage of the event, CBC News has confirmed the photos were not manipulated by AI.

Odd hands, issue of perspective

Social media users also made various claims that parts of the Carney campaign image proved it was generated by AI.

For example, one user argued that the hand placement of a person on their phone and that attendees' faces had a "collage"-like nature indicated that they were AI-generated.

But comparing the photo with the CBC's raw footage showed that each of these people is real, and did attend the event. 

One user claimed a man seen behind Carney in the original photo had "no feet" and was holding a flag at an odd angle. But the man, wearing a white-and-beige checkered shirt with a distinctive strap over his shoulder, can be glimpsed in the raw CBC footage at different points during the speech.

Observers also took issue with a woman taking a photo in the foreground of the picture, arguing that the image on her screen did not match the scene around her. But zooming in on the picture shows that the backs of the heads of the people in front of her are visible on her screen, as well as the room's light fixtures, Carney, and some of the crowd behind him.

The mismatch is likely due to conflicting angles. The campaign photographer who took the original photo is above and behind the woman in question, on a riser, CBC footage shows.

Two images of a woman holding a phone.
A composite photo shows a portion of the image of the Carney event, with a woman holding up a phone to take a photo. Some social media users pointed out the image on the woman's phone shows only a handful of people. This is likely because the woman lacks a vantage point to see the crowd behind Carney, whereas the photographer of the original photo is standing on a riser, CBC footage of the event shows. (Composite of photo submitted by Mark Carney campaign)

Question of AI detector reliability 

Several social media users relied on online sites that purport to be able to identify — or at least provide some insight — on whether an image is AI-generated or not.

Those sites can provide accurate responses, said Linvill, but they aren't foolproof. He noted that sites will often provide a measure of probability about the veracity of an image, rather than a straight yes or no.

"Overall, they are fairly reliable. They're not perfect. They're certainly not 100 per cent," he said. "You're asking a computer to do something that you're not able to do yourself — of course that's going to be difficult."

CBC News ran the Carney campaign image through several free, online AI detectors. Five correctly identified the photo as real, or with a high likelihood of being real. Three said the image was likely AI-generated, and one was inconclusive.

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A screenshot of an X post shows the results of several online AI detector tests the user has run on the event photo. CBC News ran the image through several free, online AI detectors. Five correctly identified the photo as real. Three said the image was likely AI-generated, and one was inconclusive. (Screenshot of X post)

Linville said training yourself to be able to spot fake images is something that will have to evolve along with the rapid advances in AI technology.

"Some of the things that maybe we could have relied on in the past, we can't always rely on now," he said. 

AI image generators have traditionally struggled to properly represent human hands, mouths and teeth, he says. While they're still not perfect, he notes the programs are improving now.

Linville says controversy over a photo like the one from the Carney event can arise from technical issues — like a wide, crowded shot of people who are not expecting to have their photo taken — but also from wider trends in how we deal with AI and our trust in information more broadly.

"Sometimes, people are biased," he said. "Just like computers aren't perfect, we're not perfect either."

A man speaks to a room of people.
The original version of photo of a Mark Carney leadership campaign event from Feb. 12 in North Vancouver, which some social media users claimed was AI-generated when it circulated online. (Submitted by the Mark Carney campaign)
A man speaks to a crowd.
A second original photo of the Mark Carney event, taken less than a second before the photo that circulated online, according to metadata. (Submitted by the Mark Carney campaign)

Clarifications

  • Mark Carney’s campaign sent CBC News two photos of the event taken less than a second apart, according to the metadata. CBC News analyzed and verified the authenticity of both photos and our videographer’s full video coverage from the event. There are minor differences in the photos. The photo that originally accompanied this story was not the one circulating on social media. It has been replaced. This article now includes both photos provided by the campaign.
    Feb 21, 2025 3:59 PM EST

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Christian Paas-Lang covers federal politics for CBC News in Ottawa as an associate producer with The House and a digital writer with CBC Politics. You can reach him at christian.paas-lang@cbc.ca.