Full episode: July 16, 2022
In this episode, Shelagh Rogers speaks with Omar El Akkad, Lisa Bird-Wilson and Victor Dwyer.
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This episode originally aired on Oct. 30, 2021.
In this episode of The Next Chapter, Shelagh Rogers speaks with Omar El Akkad about his Scotiabank Giller Prize-winning novel What Strange Paradise, Lisa Bird-Wilson about her novel Probably Ruby and columnist Victor Dwyer about a Canadian counterpart to a bestselling international novel.
Also, Bridget Canning talks about her novel Some People's Children and Lian McMillan, drummer in Toronto rock band Cutsleeve, shares the book she enjoyed reading.