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Pizza saver or no pizza saver? In Windsor, a city known for its pizza, it's a hot debate

It's a surprisingly divisive issue for pizzeria owners: To use a pizza saver, or not? Some of Windsor's finest pizza makers have some thoughts.

Some say the plastic table isn't necessary while others swear by it

The pizza saver debate

1 year ago
Duration 1:29
Pizza savers or pizza tables are one of the single-use plastics sticking around, for now. They keep your pizza box from collapsing on your precious pie. We wanted to find out what would happen if they ever were to disappear. We spoke with Kevork Kalaydjian, owner of Capri Pizza and Taher Abumeeiz, owner of Arcata Pizza who both have very different takes on what they are actually good for.

It's a surprisingly divisive issue for Windsor pizza makers: To use a pizza saver, or not? 

Also known as a pizza stool or pizza table, the tiny pieces of white plastic are designed to combat the top of the pizza box sagging into the steamy pizza toppings as the pies go out for delivery. 

But with an evolution away from single use-plastics in Canada, some wonder if the contraption is here to stay. 

"We use them pretty well every pizza," said Kevork Kalaydjian, owner of Capri Pizza. "Everybody is ordering two or three pizzas and our pizzas are heavy. 

A man smiling and holding the two pizza savers
Kevork Kalaydjian is the owner of Capri Pizza. He says the pizza savers are a necessity, given the heat, weight and quantity of the pizzas customers are ordering. (Jacob Barker/CBC)

"In order to protect our pizza, you put a couple of the pizza supports and it keeps the box straight."

The pizza supports generally run a penny or two, so they're not a big added cost, he said. 

Andre Girardi, owner of Armando's Pizza, said the pizzeria has been using them "forever."

"When you open your box, you're not pulling all the toppings off of the pizza with the lid," Girardi said. 

While customers haven't commented on the use of the pizza savers, he says he "guarantees" he'd be hearing about it if they weren't used. 

"We'd be getting a lot of comments and having to replace pizzas," Girardi said. 

A pizza with two white plastic pizza savers in the middle.
The tiny white plastic 'stools' known as pizza savers are one of the few single-use plastics still around. Windsor pizzeria owners sound off on the need — or not — for the polarizing object. (Jacob Barker/CBC)

If all single-use plastics are banned, Kalaydjian said he'll come up with some other solution, or figures someone else will. 

A possible option is the dough ball: a small sphere of baked dough that would also support the middle of the box. It's a bit of extra work, Kalaydjian acknowledged. But it does offer a tasty extra bite. 

But another name in Windsor pizza swears the bits of plastic aren't needed — if you time it right. 

"Pizza bags and pizza support boxes are the worst thing for pizzas," said Taher Abumeeiz, owner of Arcata Pizzeria. 

A man makes a pizza at a counter
Taher Abumeeiz is the owner of Arcata Pizzeria. He says if made and timed correctly, the pizzas do not need a pizza saver to stay intact. (Michael Evans/CBC)

Abumeeiz says the need for pizza supports come from delivery, where several pies are stacked into one thermal bag: The heat of the pizza above produces steam that weakens the top of the box below causing it to sag. 

"When you stack three or four on top of each other it becomes even worse. It's a nightmare," he said.  "Delivery bags are the worst thing for food."

A neon pizza sign
The owner of Arcata Pizzeria says there's no need for a plastic 'pizza saver' and he doesn't use them on his pizzas. (Michael Evans/CBC)

Instead, he said Arcata doesn't stack the boxes, has the driver waiting, and uses a warming blanket. 

However you stack it, Windsor is well-known for its pizza. Many of the city's best-known joints are locally owned and operated, and serve up a special combo of Windsor-made cheese, shredded pepperoni and canned — not fresh — mushrooms.

With files from Jacob Barker and Michael Evans