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Each author and contender duo discussed their book on The Next Chapter with Ali Hassan

Image | Canada Reads 2025

Caption: The 2025 Canada Reads contenders are, from left to right, Saïd M'Dahoma, Maggie Mac Neil, Shayla Stonechild, Michelle Morgan and Linwood Barclay. (CBC)

With Canada Reads(external link) coming up soon, our champions are in full swing preparing for the great Canadian book debate.
The great Canadian book debate will be broadcast on YouTube(external link), CBC Gem(external link), CBC Radio One(external link), CBC TV(external link), CBC Listen(external link) and on CBC Books(external link). Canada Reads(external link) airs at 10:05 a.m. ET (11 a.m. AT, 1:30 p.m. NT) on CBC Radio One(external link) and 1 p.m. ET (2 p.m. AT, 2:30 p.m. NT) on CBC TV(external link). You can tune in live or catch a replay on the platform of your choice.
To help them get ready, they've chatted with the author of the book they're bringing to the table — and those conversations aired on The Next Chapter(external link).
Featuring powerful moments of connection, discussion and excitement, these segments dive deep into the five books and the reasons they resonated with the panellists.
You can listen to these interviews below.

Maggie Mac Neil & Samantha M. Bailey

Image | Maggie Mac Neil and Samantha M. Bailey on The Next Chapter for Canada Reads

Caption: Maggie Mac Neil, left, and Samantha M. Bailey after chatting in The Next Chapter studio. (CBC)

Watch Out for Her is about a young mother named Sarah who thinks her problems are solved when she hires a young babysitter, Holly, for her six-year-old son. Her son adores Holly and Holly adores Sarah, who is like the mother she never had. But when Sarah sees something that she can't unsee, she uproots her family to start over. Her past follows her to this new life, raising paranoid questions of who is watching her now? And what do they want?
"For the Canada Reads(external link) audience, first to see genre fiction like last year with Carley Fortune's Meet Me at the Lake and this year with Watch Out For Her, to give genre fiction a seat at the table, to give mysteries and thrillers a seat at the table, I'm incredibly honoured," said Bailey on The Next Chapter(external link).
"One of the big things that my mom always told me as I was going through my career and making big decisions is that you can't make a decision until you have all the information first," said Mac Neil."I think that's what I like the most about thrillers, is that you have to make the assumptions and you can imagine the ending with all the information that you have at the time."
LISTEN | Maggie Mac Neil and Samantha M. Bailey discuss Watch Out for Her:

Media | The Next Chapter : Canada Reads duo Maggie Mac Neil and Samantha M. Bailey discuss Watch Out For Her and Instagram sleuthing

Caption: Olympic champion Maggie Mac Neil and bestselling thriller author Samantha M. Bailey meet for the first time on air! Mac Neil is defending Bailey’s novel Watch Out for Her in Canada Reads 2025.

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Shayla Stonechild & Ma-Nee Chacaby

Image | A Two-Spirit Journey by Ma-Nee Chacaby, with Mary Louisa Plummer

Caption: Ma-Nee Chacaby, left, recounts her life and the hardships she faced throughout in her autobiography, A Two-Spirit Journey, written with Mary Louisa Plummer. (Ruth-Kivilahti/University of Manitoba Press/Yasmin Kudrati-Plummer)

In A Two-Spirit Journey, Ma-Nee Chacaby, an Ojibwa-Cree lesbian who grew up in a remote northern Ontario community, tells the story of how she overcame experiences with abuse and alcohol addiction to become a counsellor and lead Thunder Bay's first gay pride parade.
"When I came out it was totally dark, but I noticed young people now when they come out, it's wonderful to see them be happy and accepted by their own other friends, which is nice," said Chacaby on The Next Chapter(external link).
"The perseverance that Ma-Nee has and the way she embodies the teachings of her grandmother and also the way she just gives back was something that I was inspired by," said Stonechild.
LISTEN | Shayla Stonechild and Ma-Nee Chacaby discuss A Two-Spirit Journey:

Media Audio | The Next Chapter : Shayla Stonechild shares an Ojibwa-Cree elder's message of hope and healing with Canada Reads

Caption: The podcaster and wellness advocate chats with author Ma-Nee Chacaby about why A Two-Spirit Journey is the book all of Canada should read.

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Michelle Morgan & Emma Hooper

Image | Etta and Otto and Russell and James and Emma Hooper and Michelle Morgan

Caption: Emma Hooper, left, is the author of Etta and Otto and Russel and James, a contender on Canada Reads 2025, championed by Canadian actor Michelle Morgan. (Penguin Random House Canada, Penguin Canada, CBC)

In the novel Etta and Otto and Russell and James, 82-year-old Etta decides to walk 3,232 kilometres to Halifax from her farm in Saskatchewan with little more than a rusty rifle and a talking coyote named James for company. Her early life with her husband Otto and their friend Russell are revealed in flashbacks to the Great Depression and the Second World War.
"I started with the letter because it seemed easiest for me to start right in the character because it's in Etta's voice," said Hooper on The Next Chapter(external link).
"I feel like that's one of the reasons I love this book is that you do that often," said Morgan. "Rather than describing or trying to tell the reader what we're seeing or what we should feel, we're just sort of in it. A lot of this book is letters written by Etta and Otto to each other and notes and things like that, a lot of it is their own writing."
LISTEN | Michelle Morgan and Emma Hooper discuss Etta and Otto and Russell and James:

Media Audio | The Next Chapter : Heartland actor Michelle Morgan and author Emma Hooper talk Canada Reads

Caption: Michelle Morgan is championing Etta and Otto and Russell and James by Emma Hooper in the March debates. It tells the story of 82-year-old Etta, who leaves her home in Saskatchewan to fulfill her dream of seeing the sea.

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Linwood Barclay & Wayne Johnston

Image | Jennie's Boy by Wayne Johnston

Caption: Linwood Barclay, left, is championing Jennie's Boy by Wayne Johnston on Canada Reads 2025. (CBC, Knopf Canada, Mark Raynes Roberts)

Jennie's Boy is a memoir that recounts a six-month period in Wayne Johnston's chaotic childhood, much of which was spent as a frail and sickly boy with a fiercely protective mother. While too sick to attend school, he spent his time with his funny and eccentric grandmother Lucy and picked up some important life lessons along the way.
"Back then I had never known anything else and I read a lot early on and I tended to compare myself to characters in books," Johnston said on The Next Chapter(external link). "One thing I found out really early about books is that unless something goes wrong, there's no book so I was used to characters encountering problems. I kind of thought of myself as a fictional character and it never occurred to me to wonder, 'Am I going to survive at the end of this story?'"
"I wonder if that's why this book connected with me so much," said Barclay. "To your point about when you're going through this, you don't really appreciate how desperate or how bad it is."
"When I wrote my memoir years ago, it was a difficult time I went through in my teens and lost my father and so forth. But it wasn't until many years later when it even occurred to me that it would be interesting to anyone."
LISTEN | Linwood Barclay and Wayne Johnston discuss Jennie's Boy:

Media | The Next Chapter : Canada Reads duo Linwood Barclay and Wayne Johnston discuss Jennie's Boy and debate strategy

Caption: Bestselling thriller author Linwood Barclay is championing Wayne Johnston’s Jennie’s Boy in Canada Reads 2025.

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Saïd M'Dahoma & Jamie Chai Yun Liew

Image | Dandelion by Jamie Chai Yun Liew

Caption: Author Jamie Chai Yun Liew, left, and pastry chef Saïd M'Dahoma talk about Canada Reads selection, Dandelion, on The Next Chapter. (Kenya-Jade Pinto, Arsenal Pulp Press, CBC)

Dandelion is a novel about family secrets, migration, isolation, motherhood and mental illness. When Lily was a child, her mother, Swee Hua, walked away from the family and was never heard from again. After becoming a new mother herself, Lily is obsessed with discovering what happened to Swee Hua.
She recalls growing up in a British Columbia mining town where there were only a handful of Asian families and how Swee Hua longed to return to Brunei. Eventually, a clue leads Lily to southeast Asia to find out the truth about her mother.
"A lot of the research and the work I was doing was listening to clients, listening to people who have experienced migration, experienced statelessness and the hardships that they've had to endure," said Liew on The Next Chapter(external link). "I wanted to write from an emotional place."
"I really like Dandelion because it resonated with me a lot, especially because I'm an immigrant," said M'Dahoma. "I'm the son of immigrants and that book created so many emotions for me. I could see that, even though I'm not from the same country as the characters from the book, I really look like them. My parents really look like them."
"There's so much connection between different immigrants from all around the world and I felt compelled to choose this book for Canada Reads(external link) because of how much it resonated with me."
LISTEN | Saïd M'Dahoma and Jamie Chai Yun Liew discuss Dandelion:

Media Audio | The Next Chapter : Canada Reads duo Saïd M’Dahoma and Jamie Chai Yun Liew talk french pastries and Dandelion

Caption: The neuroscientist-turned-pastry chef meets the bestselling author Jamie Chai Yun Liew for the first time, whose novel Dandelion he’ll be defending on Canada Reads 2025.

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