What was your favourite thing to do before someone told you weren't very good at it? Your answer, says Eat Pray Love author Elizabeth Gilbert, may just lead you back to curiosity.

The best-selling writer joins Shad to discuss her inspired how-to guide, Big Magic: Creative Living Without Fear and why she thinks the urge to create becomes destructive if ignored. She also reflects on practical ways to pursue creativity and argues that curiosity is more important than passion.