Leaders have talked about “living with COVID” for months, but what does it really mean? Alberta and Saskatchewan are the first provinces to remove vaccine passports in the country, with more restrictions planned to lift in the coming weeks. This week, host Kathleen Petty sits down with Evan Menzies, the former director of communication for the United Conservative Party, Leah Ward, NDP leader Rachel Notley’s previous communications chief, and Murray Mandryk, a long-time columnist at the Regina Leader-Post to discuss the dilemma of how to adjust to this new stage of COVID response.