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Inside America's intelligence with ex-CIA and NSA director Michael Hayden

Former NSA and CIA director Michael Hayden was at the heart of America's intelligence through the 9/11 attacks, the war in Iraq, and the searing criticism over torture methods - such as waterboarding. We speak to the former chief spymaster about "Playing to the Edge."
Former National Security Agency (NSA) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director Michael Hayden says Paris and Belgium attacks were 'somewhere between expected and inevitable.' (Larry Downing/Reuters)

For General Michael Hayden, playing to the edge means playing so close to the line that you get chalk dust on your cleats

"Play to the edge" was Hayden's guiding principle when he ran the National Security Agency, and when he ran the CIA.

From 1999 until 2005, Michael Hayden was the director of the National Security Agency. And the director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 2006 until 2009, the only person ever to hold both positions. 

Hayden was at the heart of America's intelligence community through the attacks of 9/11, the war in Iraq, and the subsequent searing criticism over methods - such as waterboarding - that are now rejected as torture.  He shares 
his guiding principles in his tenure heading the CIA and NSA in his new book, Playing to the Edge: American Intelligence in the Age of Terror
 

This segment was produced by The Current's Howard Goldenthal and Lara O'Brien.