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Best of Q: Women, work and what to do after you've leaned in

Nancy Vonk and Janet Kestin on making work culture work for women.

Janet Kestin and Nancy Vonk, two of the advertising minds behind Dove's Campaign for Real Beauty, join Jian to discuss their book Darling, You Can't Do Both -- and other noise to ignore on your way up

The book, which has been described as the "how-to follow up to Lean In", explores how women can begin to change the rules of business and make sure work culture works for women. 

The co-authors challenge several popular assumptions -- like the notion that motherhood is always bad for one's career, that saying "no" makes you a worse worker, and that boundaries are impossible to establish in this "insane, always on" work culture. 

This show originally aired June 2, 2014